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A librarian from Massachusetts[edit]

I removed the line thar referred to Flag Day as a "major holiday" in Massachusetts and one that marks the end of the school year. I am a librarian in Massachusetts, and Flag Day is certainly not a major holiday here...indeed, I think relatively few people know it exists. It's not a state holiday, and although school usually does end in June, the date varies from community to community (and is often extended if there have been a lot of snow closings.) I've heard people express surprise when the beginning of the school year occurs before Labor Day, but I've never heard anyone make any remark about school extending beyond Flag Day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethomsen (talkcontribs) 22:36, 27 May 2005


I'm arriving in Boston Flag Day this year. I'd like it if this article had a practicalities section, stating whether offices / shops / schools are closed, whether there is anything one should / should not do, that kind of stuff. Dublinblue (Simon in Dublin) (talk) 10:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC) My butt hurts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Popular References[edit]

Brendan Moody said he removed pointless trivia. It may be pointless to him, but I found it interesting enough to make an edit by correcting Betsy Ross' name. Unless there is some guideline from wikipedia on removing popular references or "pointless trivia", I think those should be allowed to stay in. Talk amongst yourselves! Brinklej 14:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


C'mon people.... "to officially proclaim." What are we doing?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talkcontribs) 02:37, 15 June 2006

Writing in English in the 21st Century and not the 19th? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


prehaps we could add a picture of the American Flag here? I dont want to miss credit the pic, so ill leave this as a suggestion for anyone who should come across it. 02:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

US Code Cite[edit]

(please verify and add) The relevant US Code Section is found here: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwightmcbain (talkcontribs) 14:16, 14 June 2007


There is a small town outside of Philadelphia called Yeadon. This town proclaims intself as the "Home of the Founder of Flag Day". Yeadon has a street named after William T Kerr. [1] --Safepassage 17:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How to Observe Flag Day section[edit]

I added this section from my original article, located at, (also sourcing the references used). The original article at is under a GNU Free Documentation License: Copyright (c) 2007 Mandy Barberio. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License". (MandyBarberio 15:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC))

BPOE and Roosevelt[edit]

Those two subsections are without citation and the Roosevelt story sounds like an urban legend. Is there any reliable source for either of the two? --UrsusArctosL71 (talk) 16:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


Rennerdale PA is a city, not a state. PurpleChez (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Betsy Ross did Not Design the American Flag[edit]

Betsy Ross did not design the American Flag. Her flag company may have been the first to manufacture the flag but the flag was designed by an official of the US government who wanted to get paid for designing the flag but because he was an employee already of the government they said no. Betsy Ross did, however, show Gen. Washington how to make a perfect five pointed star by cutting out a piece of paper. That's why we have five pointed stars on the American flag rather than six pointed stars. (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Freemasons encoded Flag Day on June 14(64) , 6/14 & Matthew 6:14 - 'Lord's Prayer', 1777[edit]

Members of Freemasonry have encoded much in US history, i.e Declaration of Independence on July 4(72) or 7/4 & GOD=7_4, George Washington's 74 generals, Constitutional Convention had 74 representatives attend (not at the same time) and Constitution has 7 Articles written on 4 pages, etc. The American Flag being adopted on June 14 and this day subsequently becoming "Flag Day" is not random! First, Masons might align dates with cosmic events/astrology. Second, they might symbolically encode and align dates using Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74) using A-B-C becomes 1-2-3(74). June 14 = J10+U21+N14+E5+14 = 64; YHWH=64, G.A.O.T.U.=64, Avraham=64, Moriah=64, Zion=64, Israel=64, chosen=64, etc. Also, GOD=26 and flag=26. Third, Mason(47)s might align dates with Bible verses and will look first at the Gospel(74) according(74) to St.(74) Matthew(7 letters). June 14 or 6/14 aligns with the end of the Lord's Prayer: Matt 6:14, "If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." This example in the Gospel of Matthew was also used to align Father's Day which is the third Sunday in June: the earliest it could fall is 6/15 and Matt 6:15, "But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your sins." Fourth, Masons might use sacred numerology to encode dates, i.e. 1777. - Brad Watson, Miami (talk) 17:27, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Its not just American history that the Freemason's have affected. Think about this: There are 10 hot-dogs in a pack and 8 hot-dog buns in bag. That give you 108, which matches with the 108 defilments (sins of mankind) in some forms of Buddhism. That's right everyone, Freemason's have set up hot-dog packaging to represent the crimes of humanity. Either that, or maybe its just that if you look hard enough you can find interesting number combinations and correlations anywhere you look.DoctorLazarusLong (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Lazaruz Long (doctor of what?), you are a perfect example of why sacred geometry/gematria has not been exposed to the general public. The ancient mysteries were/are only taught to the initiates who qualified to be such. Pythagoras and other great masters would meet someone like you, realize that you are a disrespectful idiot, and wouldn't expose any of the great and sacred knowledge to you because you would defile it! Do you ignore that Masons exist and have for many centuries? Do you ignore that Hebrew gematria, Greek isopsephy, and Arabic hisab al-jummal are real? Do you ignore that King James I, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington are just three examples of Grand Master Masons (GMM)? Do you ignore that artists and composer(74)s like the Mason Mozart add symbolic meaning to their work? The new 1 World Trade Center(186 = 1+W23+O15+R18+L12+D4+T20+R18+A1+D4+E5+C3+E5+N14+T20+E5+R18) is 1776 feet high, 'coincidence'? "If you look hard enough you can find interesting number combinations and correlations anywhere you look". Exactly. And those throughout history that have discovered repetitive numerical patterns in nature have been smart enough to recognize that they are not 'random', but that it's laws and theories of science. GOD=7_4 was recognized by the ancient Egyptians when they looked at the skies. There were/are 7 moving objects(74) in the heavens(74) seen with the naked eye and 4 of these (Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn) don't cast shadows(74) on Earth (Sun, Moon, & Venus do). The Lunar Months(74) have 4 phases of app. 7 days long (7.4 days), thus giving us our 7-day-week and 4-weeks in a 'moonth'. The ancients also recognized that the lunar year (354 days) + 7-day-week + 4 days = solar year. The enlightened Egyptians adopted "As above, so below" and began their practice of sacred geometry by adjusting the standard (Biblical) cubits(74) of 6 palms x 4 fingers by adding a palm to create Royal Cubits of 7 palms x 4 fingers. This is why ancient hieroglyphics depict the forearm as unusually long. Of course, according(74) to Dr. Long, the ancient Egytian artists just couldn't correctly depict the length of a forearm. 238120 1 42113211919! - Brad Watson, Miami (talk) 11:43, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Brad, number 1, you take me far to seriously. Smile my friend, and laugh, the universe is a funny place to be in. I am not really a doctor, my talk page says that out right. I am a student of Anthropology and the name is a reference to a Robert Heinlein character. I don't deny that the universe is filled with marvelous patterns, patterns that humans have evolved a remarkable ability to deduce. I do believe that we have a bad habit of going to far though, looking for patterns and conspiracy where none is to be found. I believe that we often leap to assume causation when simple correlation is more likely the truth. I think that human beings are remarkable, but we are prone to foolishness and that is a wonderful thing.DoctorLazarusLong (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

George/Victor Morris?[edit]

George Morris/Victor Morris ... Which is it? The relevant subsection starts off with 'George' but the quoted passage which follows uses 'Victor'. o.0 ? --Kevjonesin (talk) 07:21, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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On June 14, 2017, President Donald Trump, who was coincidentally born on June 14, 1946, proclaimed Flag Day and Flag Week.[edit]

Is "coincidentally" necessary? Can't imagine anyone would assume he was intentionally born on Flag Day with the knowledge that he would later proclaim Flag Day and Flag Week as the president. Also not sure why 2017 is noted specifically, since he also presumably proclaimed them in '18 and '19.

Overall, not sure why this sentence is necessary. Since the top of the section already says "During National Flag Week, the president will issue a proclamation 'urging the people to observe the day as the anniversary of the adoption on June 14, 1777, by the Continental Congress of the Stars and Stripes as the official flag of the United States of America.'", this just seems like a roundabout way to note that his birthday coincides with Flag Day. Which is certainly a fun fact, but does it need to be in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:09, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. This is entirely unnecessary information. It contributes nothing to the reader’s understanding of Flag Day. User:Armchair Potentate (talk) 21:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. This sentence is also unclear, one has to go to the source to understand the statement being made. It appears to me there is consensus to remove this sentence?--CriticalThinking26 (talk) 22:56, 14 June 2019 (UTC)